1921 luger markings 18. and Another one! RangeMaster37 Jan 18, 2018 4 4. 00 LSB#: 180709EA66 Make: DWM Model: 1921 Police Serial Number: 5096b Year of Manufacture: 1921 Caliber: 9mm Parabellum Action Type: Toggle Action Semi-Auto, Removable Magazine. The Luger (Pistole Parabellum or P-08) is perhaps the most aesthetically and ergonomically pleasing of all autoloading centerfire pistols. 19 is an Imperial marking and would indicate Infantry Regiment 18, 10th Company, weapon 16. © 2000, 2010, 2013 by GermanDaggers. It has a five Dec 28, 2021 · It seems that Commercial C/N Proof mark Luger pistols that were not in government service follows repetitive C/N and serial number location pattern while Police/Military rework versions of same pistols could be with mixed C/N appearing patterns plus with added other different style of stamps and serial number marks on place they wouldn't Note: The Luger section in this book is arranged chronologically by year of manufacture under individual manufacturer/city arsenal headings. No import marks. Photo by Chuck Hawks. Army, Navy, Police Hey guys, unfortunately this may be my first and last posting here. I tried to make it as straight forward as possible. Jul 23, 2016 · A friend had a 1921 military DWM Luger come into his shop as a transfer. No letter suffix in the serial number. The grip strap markings have been removed. Do the numbers on the gun match, the Germans were fanatical about marking everything on the Lugers including the pins they all should have the last two digits of the serial number on them. This is a police issued DWM 1921 Luger. Sep 4, 2009 · Attachments 1921 luger holster TP markings. Copyright © 1998 - 2024 SOLD FOR: $1,325. The time now is 11:14 AM. It utilizes an adjustable front blade sight and fixed V notch rear sight that is located on the rear DWM 1921 Dated Police Luger 9mm. Any info would be much appreciated. This book contains English translations of the actual regulations issued by the German authorities from the Imperial and Weimar eras, and is an invaluable source of information about the often Nov 20, 2008 · In closed are pictures of a all matching 1921 DWM Weimar Army Luger. Let me frame the question this way . VI. Miltex imported 3000 after the breakup of the USSR. Jun 9, 2012 · I am interested in the unit marking on a DWM 1921 Luger. 81. I like the 1920 and 1921 dated lugers. Be the first to review “DWM Luger 1921 Police Issue 9mm” Can be assembled in number of calibers :556 , 300 BLK , 7. No Nitro Proofs to be seen either. 65mm or 9mm calibers. HISTORY. 1921 DWM Weimar Police Luger 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. 29 the 29 is smaller than the F or 4 thanks alot The following 12 members says Thank You to Norme for your post: abukafura, aldo35, George Anderson, gunnertwo, ithacaartist, lance762, mrerick, Proofed, Roadster 02 Suffixes are placed on a Luger AFTER it has reached the first 10,000 guns for that series and are primarily placed on military guns. 112. DWM Luger P-08 9mm pistol review. If anyone has questions or suggestions, please contact The administrator may have required you to register before you can view this page. It has also been completely Jun 6, 2010 · VARIATIONS OF 1939, 1940, AND 41 DATED 42 CODE ARMY LUGERS IN WORD AND PICTURE (Note: not detailed in this discussion are 42 Code Lugers procured by the May 29, 2009 · I have stumpled across a dwm 1921 police rig. Often times, year of production can be hard to nail down, especially on commercial models. Can anyone ID the unit? Thanks, Len 1921 Army with unit markings - times 2 All P-08 Military Lugers Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Between 1921-1928 there were a number of Lugers that were both refurbished and fabricated specifically for export, primarily to the United States with its large commercial firearms market (hence the English language “GERMANY” marking). I have loved Lugers since my childhood, they're one of the most aesthetically pleasing, and beautifully functioning handguns I've ever laid eyes on. Any information is appreciated. However the 83591 serial number is below the reported 1920 and 1921 dated five digit serial number Lugers (Weimar Lugers, page 27). This book contains English translations of the actual regulations issued by the German authorities from the Imperial and Weimar eras, and is an invaluable source of information about the often My 1921 Police Luger All P-08 Military Lugers Jan 1, 2024 · No german military member as you described would have a 1921 marked Luger on them with the Russian/ Bulgarian (Cyrillic) marking (fire/safe) on it. Each mark, from the serial numbers to the proof marks, unit codes, and manufacturer logos, serves as a piece of a larger puzzle. This is according to my reference book "Lugers at Random" on page 41. 46. Serial number 674 The administrator may have required you to register before you can view this page. The Luger is a toggle locked, recoil operated, semi-automatic pistol that is normally chambered in 9mm Parabellum. P. Oct 19, 2015 · It's estimated that 40 to 50 thousand 1920 and 1921 new production Lugers were contracted for Police issue. It is also one of the strongest, most accurate and most recognizable service pistols Jan 23, 2023 · Dating a Luger P08 can be a bit tricky, as the gun was produced over a long period of time and underwent several changes. The Holster The holster, assuming an otherwise un-tampered with Artillery Luger holster, started as an Imperial Army Depot Artillery spare, based solely on the inside cover flap markings, was converted by or for Stoeger to fit a 1906 grip safety 1919 - 1921 commercial lazy N proofed or later vertical crown N navy Luger. Can anyone help with info about this Luger and perhaps value" the finish is about 95% with wear on the high spots. The following 12 members says Thank You to Norme for your post: abukafura, aldo35, George Anderson, gunnertwo, ithacaartist, lance762, mrerick, Proofed, Roadster 02 KRIEGHOFF COMMERCIAL DWM 1921 LUGER P08 #6732i, 3 3/4″ 30 CAL BBL, KRIEGHOFF SUHL REAR FRAME MARKED, VERY RARE, EXC BRIGHT BORE, EXC CHECKERED GRIPS, CORRECT UN-NUMBERED MAG, HIGH EDGE WEAR, 97-98% Nov 21, 2019 · The proof marks on the right side of receiver are a little hard distinguish but the double proof appears to be a Simson proof on reworked lugers. To the best of our The following 12 members says Thank You to Norme for your post: abukafura, aldo35, George Anderson, gunnertwo, ithacaartist, lance762, mrerick, Proofed, Roadster 02 Jul 20, 2012 · The GESICHERT marking in the lower position is correct for a first issue safe position but the few 1904 Navy lugers I have seen (3!) had the GESICHERT in the upper postion (modified?). It also comes with a WW2-era matching magazine that was numbered at the police arsenal. It has all matching numbers(21) inside and out. Anyone have any thoughts. 1921 luger Commercial LugersForum Jump User Control Panel Private Messages Subscriptions Who's Online Search Forums Forums Home Announcements & Help Site Announcements Site Technical Help or Site Feedback Luger Discussion Forums Early Lugers (1900-1906) All P-08 Military Lugers Commercial Lugers Swiss Lugers Artillery Lugers Navy Lugers Krieghoff Lugers Luger Accessories All Post-WWII Lugers . He specifically says it's found on early post WW-I police pistols with the 1920 property mark and 1921 date. Gun is all matching. All times are GMT -4. 62×39 , 458 Socom Luger P08 Stainless 1993 Mitchell Arms – 2 mags and Mitchell Holster 9mm Luger Erfurt 1918 Army Issue 9mm with Holster with Two Mags Currently delivery schedule with existing orders is 10-12 month from Jul 16, 2021 · I just got this from Simpsons and I’m having trouble identifying the markings. There are also smaller upside down cancelled markings: 2. It has a stock lug and has not been fitted with a sear or magazine safety. Any corrections or update on the first six definitions. I can’t find these in the books that I Oct 16, 2016 · I'm not very knowledgeable about Lugers, but I love the one I have, which is a family heirloom from my older brother. Nov 3, 2019 · Hi i want to know what do 11. 4. These are both on the gripstrap below the trigger. 19. 2. M. THESE WOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED SOME TIME AFTER 1937. It is a little lengthy The administrator may have required you to register before you can view this page. , although there is The following 12 members says Thank You to Norme for your post: abukafura, aldo35, George Anderson, gunnertwo, ithacaartist, lance762, mrerick, Proofed, Roadster 02 SOLD FOR: $1,305. Thanks. 100 signifies Königlich Sächsische Gendarmerie, Waffe No. The pistol developed quite a reputation for this capability, and in France, it was given the nickname mange-tout, meaning "eats everything. unit markings on a 1921 Luger Grip Strap mean? I have been told they are police markings, is this correct? Mar 8, 2016 · A coworker inherited a Lugeris there anywhere online he can look up markings and serial numbers and such? I know next to nothing about themexcept they can be quite historic. 38 auto or 9mm Luger ammo. Unit marking " S. Gend. Oct 19, 2005 · The following police markings are found on the 07 Dreyse. Unit marking is S. The police Lugers are identified by state police unit markings, a police installed sear safety, and magazines numbered 1, 2 or 3 in the police style. The left side of the This pistol was made sometime between 1921 and 1928 with a 3 ¾” barrel and chambered in . Eagle over “N”, Stick Eagle over “B”, etc. From my research, this Luger was one of 20,000 stored in a salt mine in the Ukraine. The bottom of the barrel is marked “91901” The top of the toggle is marked with a Cartouche. There are crown over “N” commercial proofs on 1921 Dated DWM Luger Marking RwMin B. Thanks Simpson Limited - Explore our trusted selection of antique and modern firearms, collectibles, and accessories. Looks like the serial number and suffix are in the correct range. Gun has the sear safety cut that you find on a lot of the police guns. Look at the markings on the gun. The unit has no Schiwy or Walther safty so i assume these are Reichswehr markings. " Ricky Nelson Nov 3, 2009 · Long story short, if a Luger has a 1920 or 1921 date stamp, and it has Eagle ("Dove") AyA4 ("Buzzard") , ArA4 or WaA4 proofs, or a combination of these proofs. I was looking at a 1921 DWM Police Luger pistol. Caliber: . The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and Erfurt) are in the "Lugers - DWM Commercial 1898-1929" Gallery. Upon opening it up I was surprised to see a dark finish on all internal components which I assume is due to a refinish. Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information 1921 Single date stamp, two digit serial #. The holster is dated 1935 and is number to the gun. 1921 Caliber: 9mm Luger (9x19mm Parabellum) Action Type: Toggle Type Striker-Fired Semi-Auto, Removable Magazine Markings: The front face of the frame and the bottom of the barrel are each marked “91387”. Mar 28, 2021 · Based on observed examples, it is estimated that 80% of the 1920 and 1921 dated Army accepted Lugers went to the police. There are a lot of marking on the under side of the barrel that I haven't seen on other Lugers Jan 18, 2018 · 1921 Dated DWM Luger Marking RwMin B. Sep 10, 2024 · In sum, decoding the markings and serial numbers on Lugers is a meticulous yet rewarding endeavor that offers deep insights into the weapon's history and provenance. By all means don't use max loading data and don't use military ammo intended for full auto machine guns. " The 400 has a blowback action, which is 1921 DWM Weimar Police Luger 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. Numbering usually went from 1-9,999 then 1a to 9999a, then 1b to 9999b, etc. 1921 Weimer Unit MarkingsThe following 7 members says Thank You to Ron Smith for your post: abukafura, alanint, cirelaw, kzullick, mcg, NoncomRetired, wlyon 05-05-2013, 12:52 AM # 3 gill120 User May 13, 2016 · Help me with Luger marks identification Handguns: The Semi-automatic Forum Oct 7, 2021 · ISO Magazines: Luger Swiss 06 Bern #47 Luger 1914 DWM #7846a (+) Luger 1916 DWM #4321 Luger 1916 DWM #7148h Luger 1921 DWM #8161 Luger G-Date Navy #3430d, N1094 Luger 1936 S/42 #7899 Luger 1937 S/42 #6411a Reply Like rhinemann Discussion starter 397 posts · Joined 2008 Dec 25, 2022 · Looks like a nice Weimar period and weimar unit marking - someone else will have to come along who knows what it means. Feb 8, 2022 · Hello fellow collectors, I was looking to purchase my first Luger. The pistol is fully matching but the magazine does not have any numbers Luger Identification Form There are approximately 3,000 known variations of Luger Parabellum Pistols Please answer all questions on this form completely to help identify your particular specimen. Some number of lugers were contracted for by the Weimer government and were produced in 1920 and 1921 (and were so dated on the chamber). Chambered for the 9mm Largo (Bergmann-Bayard) the pistol will usually function satisfactorily with . The gun is matching, has an added police sear safety, and has an Imperial regiment marking on the front strap that was crossed out. 00 LSB#: WY240918VB060 Make: Gesichert Model: P08 Luger Serial Number: 91901 Year of Manufacture: 1921 Caliber: 9mm Luger Action Type: Toggle Type Striker-Fired Semi-Auto, Removable Magazine Markings: Most of the markings have been removed due to refinishing. Note the markings on the rear frame of the Luger. Luger and first manufactured two years later by a German company called Deutsche Waffen-und Munitionsfabriken (DWM). Markings: The front face of the frame is marked “5096 / b” and with a circled “X”. ) This video looks at the different markings that can be found on the Luger and P38 pistol series with examples at hand. The Identification of “Luger” Model P08 Pistols WARNING: Ensure the Pistol is unloaded Make/Code on Toggle: Make/Code on Toggle Jan 25, 2021 · A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. Feb 20, 2024 · Manufactured by DWM in 1921, this pistol falls high in the commercial 5-digit serial range but carries German Army acceptance/proof marks and is German army unit marked as well. I have a 1918 DWM with all original serial numbers, down to the firing pin. 1 KB Views: 89 NRA Endowment Member KSRA Life Member Certified Police Armorer "You can't please everyone so you have got to please yourself. F. /F. Magazine number has been made matching. It reads as follows: I/J. The Luger P08 was produced by several different manufacturers, and the markings will give you an Mar 10, 2022 · A 5 digit 1920 commercial gun with a 1921 military chamber stamp and Nazi eagle proofs along with Weimar proofs? I also see a 42 Mauser replacement code stamp and an Eagle 63 Mauser barrel stamp on what appears to be the original barrel, as most replacement barrels aren’t stamped with a serial number, much less a commercial one. 308" thanks, standingstones Oct 25, 2018 · The attached photos are submitted as an example of unit grip and rear frame markings. 6. Be sure to describe all proof marks as fully and carefully as possible (i. Such a marking for the same Reichswehr unit would be 10/R. Hope that helps, only remember that as my German Grandfather had one which went through the same process fater his service in WW1. A recent discussion on the Lugerforum began with this post by collector Tom Armstrong Luger Identification Guide - Prototype, Commercial & Test Lugers (1895-1914) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. The front toggle is marked with a script “DWM” and “96” and the top of the extractor is also Page 2- unit marking on a 1921 dwm Unit Markings To value a 1921 Luger P-08, verify matching serial numbers and original parts. 30 Luger cartridge. 65x21mm Parabellum) Action Type: Toggle Type Striker-Fired Semi-Auto, Removable Magazine Markings: The front face of the frame and the bottom of Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information The following tables list the base forms for police unit marks found in German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. If anyone has questions or suggestions, please contact Vern@GermanDaggers. I also agree with the assessment of condition - I'd say "excellent" from what I can see - although more pictures are needed for an accurate evaluation. R. JPG 53. The pistol has only commercial “Crown / N” markings but follows the military convention of serializing the small parts. A. Mar 12, 2018 · I'd recommend starting on the low end of recommended loads and work up to a load that gives you reliable function. The gun has retained roughly 75-80% of its original finish. It appears to have the Russian word for "Fire" on the left ear, which I have never seen before. May 31, 2015 · I thought this was unique as a 1921 with unit markings. Powered by vBulletin® Version 3. 4 Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. The seller told me that it has the Schiwy safety device (I'm still looking into what that actually means). 196). Barrels are generally marked 9mm/. Anybody out there got info on unit markings? Thanks in advance. Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. Can anyone ID the unit? Thanks, Len 1921 Army with unit markings - times 2 All P-08 Military Lugers Jul 23, 2016 · A friend had a 1921 military DWM Luger come into his shop as a transfer. Then it is a new production 1920 or 1921 Luger. 47. Starting in 1910 regulations required Army Lugers to be dated at manufacture (see Imperial Lugers page 29-30 and Gortz page 111-114) These regulations requiring Army Lugers be dated were reaffirmed by Period in action photographs, and related accessories Aug 13, 2011 · HI hope you guys can help ID this 1921 DWM it is all numbers matching ( except mag) and is unit marked on the back below the rear toggle F. com Jan 20, 2025 · The unit markings are from the Weimar Republic ers and I agree with Phila's interpretation of their meaning. The markings are: 2. Dec 2, 2011 · 1921 is after the Treaty of versai so its not a military Luger it is what is known as a commercial Luger. The chambers may already have been stamped 1921 and at least some of them serial numbered (four digits). Nov 13, 2003 · The "a" suffix serial number, and 1921 date suggest manufacture during 1921 (Weimar Lugers, page 29). Jan 9, 2024 · Edited 1/16/24 We are calling for data for DWM manufactured pistols during the period 1920-1921. Frame is 3marked: 007 on the trigger guard Slide and Barrel Marked: 89621 on the slide and barrel. On a 1921 dated P08 one would expect to see a Reichswehr unit marking. Nov 29, 2004 · This typically signifies "Revierhauptmannshaft" (precinct main force), militarized police units formed in 1921 and disbanded in 1924 (see Weimar Lugers, p. Police markings on front grip strap. Production was both commercial and for the French and Spanish military. unit markings on a 1921 Luger Grip Strap mean? I have been told they are police markings, is this correct? It has only Jun 19, 2023 · Hello everyone, I just purchased my very first Luger. However, with a bit of knowledge and some careful inspection, it is possible to determine the approximate date of manufacture of a Luger P08. , Marceline MO, USA, 1997. Any guesses on the last four. 38 though many of the military barrels have no SOLD FOR: $1100 LSB#: 210925DA27 Make: DWM Model: Parabellum, Post-War Alphabet Commercial Serial Number: 7451i Year of Manufacture: 1921-1928, likely 1921 as "i" was the first suffix used in this variation. Some unknown Commercial DWM Alphabet Police Luger rework marking question Lightmesser Mar 28, 2022 10 2. LUGER IS ALL MATCHING INCLUDING THE MAG. Jan 30, 2022 · DWM 1921 Police Reissue with Unit Markings and an odd barrel stamp that looks like a spider or octopus (?). Since 1908, the vast majority of "Luger" pistols were used by Germans. The luger has unit markings and was curious to know if anyone could educate me on them. For many, many years Luger experts have believed that the Circle-B proof mark on the left-side receiver of the M1906 Brazilian Contract Lugers were to indicate a contract for Brazil besides the extractor marking being in Portuguese which is logical. 100. unit marking on a 1921 dwm Unit MarkingsPassword Register All Albums FAQ Calendar Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 View First Unread Thread Tools Display Modes LUGERS Location: Various Manufacturers Just before the turn of the 20th century, Georg Luger re-designed Borchardt semi-automatic pistol so that its mainspring was housed in rear of grip. These new production DWM army guns were only manufactured in 1920-21 and are relatively uncommon. To the best of our knowledge, all the examples shown are original pre-1945 manufacture. IT HAS THE SEAR SAFETY AND AT ONE TIME HAD THE MAG SAFETY BUT THIS WAS REMOVED AS WAS THE WIEMAR ERA CITY POLICE MARKINGS ON THE FRONT GRIP STRAP. The nature of the witness marks made me question in my own mind the authenticity of the barrels on some of my collection, and I corresponded with other collectors to explore the topic--a feeling of misgiving, without particular direction. The German 8th Infantry Division Participated in the invasion of Poland May 9, 2004 · 1920 AND 1921 DATED DWM LUGERS, NEW MANUFACTURE, PROOFS, ARMY ACCEPTANCE OF POLICE LUGERS. Would the holster have been with it or ended up with it over the years? The last one is also a 1921, marking?? Thank you, MSSSR Feb 28, 2011 · I have just acquired a DWM Luger with Crown N markings, serial number 81373. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co. There is no date stamped on it anywhere and no "Germany" stamp either. Over several months I closely examined the barrels of my own Lugers. When fired, the Luger uses a toggle-joint breech mechanism to eject the spent casing and load the next round to be fired. I was told it was a commercial Luger, but was issued to the Police/Military. 4K views 0 replies 1 participant last post by silver leaf Oct 1, 2018 S Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · The DWM markings are significant because they indicate the pistol has been reworked in 1921 after the Treaty of Versailles. 380 A. I'm not that up on Weimar unit marks seems to me that the company number of twenty is very high. Sorry its a classic mix master parts gun in my opinion. I have been pondering it's originality and value, and appreciate that if you know anything to leave a comment. No. 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. It was initially part of the commercial run of pistols, but was pulled from the production line and apparently re-dated and inspected to help fill the Army contract for that year. S. 398. 1. 30 Luger (7. 8. C. May 16, 2011 · IN 98% CONDITION WE HAVE A FAIRLY RARE 1921 NO LETTER SUFFIX DWM ALPHABET POLICE LUGER. Family-owned since 1962. The following tables list the base forms for police unit marks found in German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. It later was deferred to police use as shown by police marking, sear, and magazine safety. The administrator may have required you to register before you can view this page. ?? Would like to know the meaning of the marking on the front strap. The pistol is chambered for 9mm Largo but was designed to interchangeably fire 9mm Luger, 9mm Steyr, 9mm Browning Long, and . This is an inter-war commercial Luger made by DWM between 1919 and 1921, chambered for the 7. 65mm Parabellum or . The Luger was originally designed in 1898 by Georg J. I’m pretty new to Luger collecting and am assuming this is referred to as a 1920 Police Rework? The proof marks appear to be two Wa44 under eagles, and another eagle type symbol. Note what that load is and don't exceed it in your 1921 luger. Most probably a property mark rather than an inspection mark, and not associated with Simson. The Astra 400 was also known as the Pistola de 9 millimeters Modelo 1921. e. There are commercial, contract serial numbers and even mixtures of military style and commercial style numbers that may have assorted markings and even suffixes. An easier way to initially identify your Luger is to categorize by toggle marking first - then by chamber marking within groups (chronologically for dated chambers Apr 24, 2017 · The Simpson Luger is a Military contract, one of approximately 8-10 thousand new production 1921 Luger's built for the Military, so their price is pretty close to market value. D. Goertz and D. 30 Luger. So far I have not been able to identify it. 4K Feb 24, 2013 · In Sturgess' Borschardt and Luger book, he includes reference to the S in Circle marking on page 515. Army, Navy, Police Hello, my brother received this 1921 dated DWM p08 that appears to be a Weimar police model with the "peace dove" stamps. SOLD FOR: $1835 LSB#: 210925DA25 Make: DWM Model: Parabellum, Post-War Alphabet Army Serial Number: 4377a Year of Manufacture: 1921 Caliber: 9mm Luger (9x19mm Parabellum) Action Type: Toggle Type Striker-Fired Semi-Auto, Removable Magazine Markings: The front face of the frame and the bottom of the barrel are each marked "4377 / a". 8 to 10 thousand 1920 and 1921 new production Lugers were contracted by the Military. All new production 1920 and 1921 Lugers can be identified by the "Dove" proof marks which only appear on these years of production. The grips are plastic, which didn't come out until the 1930s. The following 12 members says Thank You to Norme for your post: abukafura, aldo35, George Anderson, gunnertwo, ithacaartist, lance762, mrerick, Proofed, Roadster 02 The following 12 members says Thank You to Norme for your post: abukafura, aldo35, George Anderson, gunnertwo, ithacaartist, lance762, mrerick, Proofed, Roadster 02 Apr 15, 2003 · I picked up a nice DWM, 1921 Luger with a unit mark on the front of the grip frame. Take Down Lever Marked 21: same as slide Jan 26, 2014 · What do O. K. 2K SOLD FOR: $1,425. 01 WOA#: WY240421JS002 Make: DWM Model: Parabellum, Inter-War Commercial Serial Number: 91387 Year of Manufacture: Ca. Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information This is a very unique DWM luger assembled in 1921. Note unique features like the aluminum magazine and proof marks, including DWM and floral symbols. It's a 1921 DWM. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. Thank you. I will try to attach pix. com. Oct 16, 2018 · Hello, I have had this Luger for over a year, picking it up for a great price. It has a 5-digit serial number, with the number '8' being added to the end of the original serial number to distinguish it from the commercial serial number block Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Mar 20, 2018 · luger unit markings? DWM 1921 markings on the grip frame front Unit markings? Any way to find out what they mean? Few other pic Information Oct 1, 2018 · 1921 Weimar unit markings Jump to Latest 2. Mar 20, 2018 · The DWM markings are significant because they indicate the pistol has been reworked in 1921 after the Treaty of Versailles. May 21, 2006 · I'm beginning to wonder if these were guns that DWM had in inventory when the IMKK shut down their military/police Luger production in 1921. This pistol originally was produced by DWM in 1921 for use in the army (military acceptance proofs on right). 10. The pistol has been refinished, but retains matching serialized parts, a decent bore and strong mechanics apart from the missing takedown lever spring. It is magazine -fed with an eight-round capacity. May 22, 2009 · These marks are on the rear frame of a 1921 Dated Army. Jan 2, 2024 · If it's a really 1921 commercial luger, it would have a few small parts with the last 2-digits of the serial number. The serial number is 3627. 3. Oct 13, 2014 · The grip strap marking 18. DWM Luger P-08 9mm Pistol By the Guns and Shooting Online Staff The DWM Luger that is the subject of this review. Looks like a cut down arty but no sight pin holes. Jan K. Parabellum P08 pistols were originally manufactured by Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken (DWM), a subsidiary of Loewe, starting in 1900; the German state armory in Erfurt also produced them to supplement DWM's numbers. 501 signifies Königlich Polizei Präsidium Frankfurt, Waffe Aug 25, 2025 · The Luger pistol is a German-made semi-automatic firearm chambered in 7. Jul 19, 2013 · 1921 Army with unit markings - times 2 All P-08 Military Lugers Dec 5, 2002 · 1921 police? Unit MarkingsJoin Date: Jun 2002 Location: Central PA Posts: 113 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts Monk, Buy Luger pistols from WW1 WW2 Model P 08 handguns by Mauser, Krieghoff, DWM, Simson Black Widow Lugers, Artillery Lugers, and complete Luger rigs Made from 1921 until 1946 by Unceta y Compania, Guernica, Spain. The time now is 04:53 AM. K. Luger Proof/Acceptance Mark Identification Guide (1898-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms.